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Topic: Show Off Your Chinese Teaware

Here is my version of the eponymous Show Off thread for your favorite Chinese or Taiwanese teaware. My own collection is somewhat modest in this regard, but I can't wait to see everyone's goods.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3179/3015805192_ce88cc5bf3.jpg
My Yancha pot.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3045/3082421392_918166270d.jpg
My current arrangement for Taiwan tea. I also drink green TGY from this pot.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3276/3084840888_d48f527b0e.jpg
A pretty standard porcelain service for Chinese green, green puerh, or whatever else feels best in a gaiwan.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3021/3092847701_616e4978c6.jpg
A really horrible photo of the current Yixing family. I'll retake this after my new stuff arrives from Nada.


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Re: Show Off Your Chinese Teaware

A pot I've had for about 2 years, originally from Stéphane, ~ 120 ml, bottom seal is 经典陶坊, like the xishi I posted in the broken teaware thread; no handle / lid seal. Appears at least semi-hand made, 1990s IIRC; the workmanship is a little funky. I am guessing it's some sort of modern zhuni. Lid is a little loose, but it works well enough and it wasn't expensive.

Mostly used for greenish Taiwanese oolongs, which I don't drink a lot, but those teas season a pot fast... this pot has already picked up quite a nice shine.

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http://veggiechinese.net/teadrunk/TN_red_pear2.jpg
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Re: Show Off Your Chinese Teaware

Silkroad Trade 四杯水平壶 (4 cup (70 ml) shuǐ píng), second hand from a friend here in LA. 9 hole filter. Lid seal is hard to read.

Maybe it's dumb, but I hate the camel logo on the bottom instead of a more traditional chop. But I have a weakness for small pots and for this shape, but for the money, these little pots are pretty good - the clay quality seems good, and it makes good tea. Used mostly for roasted TGY and medium roasted rolled oolongs. You can sort of see the shine it's picking up in the picture.

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http://veggiechinese.net/teadrunk/TN_silkroad_shuiping1.jpg
http://veggiechinese.net/teadrunk/TN_silkroad_shuiping2.jpg
http://veggiechinese.net/teadrunk/TN_silkroad_shuiping3.jpg
http://veggiechinese.net/teadrunk/TN_silkroad_shuiping4.jpg


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Re: Show Off Your Chinese Teaware

I bought some Yixing celadon which I really like. They are great for contrasting with unglazed Yixing ware as they add color to a service.
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_IKwzCKioUl4/SWWFmbcMsRI/AAAAAAAAATM/RkEcBvn856U/s640/yixing%20069.jpg
This gaiwan is supposedly a special clay which the company is not producing anymore. But the owner of the shop had a lot to say about how special almost everything in her store was. Lots of it was good quality though, and either she was justified in her self praise or I fell for the sales pitch because I bought a bunch of stuff there.
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_IKwzCKioUl4/SWWFofHUGBI/AAAAAAAAATU/fVdaW9ngw54/s512/yixing%20070.jpg
This cup is different from most of the yixing celadon, and a lot more expensive. It was actually a defective piece (not perfectly round) and so I got 70% off. I like it this way, and fancy it very 'wabi.' The glaze seems more transparent than celadon, and the fractures in the glaze appear more textured when viewed closely without a glare.
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_IKwzCKioUl4/SWWFgUEAK1I/AAAAAAAAAS0/vqAsyPcxsKc/s640/yixing%20066.jpg

红焙浅瓯新火活,龙团小碾斗晴窗

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Re: Show Off Your Chinese Teaware

Here are a couple of the teapots I just bought. The first is my favorite one. It is supposedly zini from Huanglong Shan dug out in the '80s. I think I believe it, because of any pots I have inspected, this one was the most alike in texture and appearance to the old zini pots from the '70s-'80s which I have personally seen. In the hand it feels somewhat like jade and has the "pig's liver" color. Sorry the pics aren't great. The handle on the lid is in the shape of a 'ruyi.'
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_IKwzCKioUl4/SWWFKU6TwFI/AAAAAAAAARY/MH-69dmkJSU/s640/yixing%20054.jpg
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_IKwzCKioUl4/SWWFRC9A07I/AAAAAAAAARw/la6qQgSr5Ks/s640/yixing%20057.jpg
This is a pot I am very excited about. I bought four of them at 10 dollars each, (and a friend of mine bought about 8 of them) so we managed to get the price even lower than their normal wholesale price. The pots are Qingshuini, and the workmanship is good, but not spectacular. I am excited about the pot because it is extremely thin and light (baotai 薄胎 in Chinese) and I think they will be good for Dancong Oolong.
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_IKwzCKioUl4/SWWFVMEe2II/AAAAAAAAASA/s9B6o7WlMqQ/s640/yixing%20059.jpg
I'm not sure if it's obvious how thin the body of the pot is in this picture, but it is very noticable in person and when held in the hand.
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_IKwzCKioUl4/SWWFTK0jJpI/AAAAAAAAAR4/9ZTTnm1r42c/s640/yixing%20058.jpg

红焙浅瓯新火活,龙团小碾斗晴窗

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Re: Show Off Your Chinese Teaware

LaoChaGui wrote:

This is a pot I am very excited about. I bought four of them at 10 dollars each, (and a friend of mine bought about 8 of them) so we managed to get the price even lower than their normal wholesale price. The pots are Qingshuini, and the workmanship is good, but not spectacular. I am excited about the pot because it is extremely thin and light (baotai 薄胎 in Chinese) and I think they will be good for Dancong Oolong.
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_IKwzCKioUl4/SWWFV … %20059.jpg

How porous Qingshuini clay is? Is it very absorptive? In another tread, "Yixing clay asthetic point of view", chrl42 writes about Hong Pi Long (aka Hong Qingshuini):

chrl42 wrote:

Above is Hong Pi Long (aka Hong Qingshuini), newly found clay. Has no grit and very smooth.

Are Qingshuini and Hong Qingshuini different clays? I am trying to learn about zisha clays but sometimes it's very confusing...


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Re: Show Off Your Chinese Teaware

Ritva, check out this thread and repost your question there. Lots of info on absorbtion.
http://teadrunk.org/viewtopic.php?id=33

Lots of names for clays are quite general, and then can be separated into more specific names having to do with the areas they are mined from and also with the mineral content or other properties of each type. Hong qingshuini would be a new type of qingshuini (they found it recently in a newer mine.) Beyond what chrl42 has said, I don't really know.

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Re: Show Off Your Chinese Teaware

New pear-shaped pot (梨型壶) from Tea Gallery. Not sure of actual volume - maybe 120 ml or so. Curious if anyone has thoughts about what kind of clay this is.

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http://veggiechinese.net/teadrunk/TN_wide_pearpot6.jpg
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Re: Show Off Your Chinese Teaware

Pear-shaped pot (梨型壶), originally from Hou De. This one is fairly small also.

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http://veggiechinese.net/teadrunk/TN_red_narrow_pearpot1.jpg
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Re: Show Off Your Chinese Teaware

6 cup Qing Yin Zhongguo Wulong Cha shui ping (六杯请饮中国乌龙茶水平壶) pot, probably fake, from auction site. I have three of these that are close to identical, other than stains and lid seal. Color isn't quite as exaggerated red in person. I'll try to get better inside shots at some point.

http://veggiechinese.net/teadrunk/TN_1qing_yin1.jpg
http://veggiechinese.net/teadrunk/TN_1qing_yin3.jpg
http://veggiechinese.net/teadrunk/TN_1qing_yin4.jpg
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11 (edited by william 2009-01-20 19:22:05)

Re: Show Off Your Chinese Teaware

6 cup Qing Yin Zhongguo Wulong Cha ba le (六杯请饮中国乌龙茶芭乐壶) pot from auction vendor. Not 100% sure whether this one is fake or not.

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http://veggiechinese.net/teadrunk/TN_2qing_yin1.jpg
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Re: Show Off Your Chinese Teaware

william, I am no expert whatsoever. let me speak my personal opinion and you can ignore anytime.

first pot, shape is nice. looks like low-end li pi ni (zini) or other

second, pear-shaped. li-pi zhuni, story has 1)original li pi zhuni is from xiao mei yao mauntain 2)all li pi zhuni is added clay with big particle intentionally. truth, i don't really know. since it has no wrinkle, either way could be not convincing to my opinion. doesnt look like any type of zhuni, just 細砂 to my opinion

third and fourth one could be mass-produced hand-made shui pin or good fake as you mentioned

then I don't really know about old shui pin hu

old pot's clay seems even more obscure to my eyes, cos back then method of clay manufactering was different, method of firing (wood-fired) was different. I should study CR pots more...

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Re: Show Off Your Chinese Teaware

I'm not saying that pot is necessarily 朱泥 (zhūní). However, I would be curious to see what you're using as a reference / example of what a wrinkle looks like. May be wishful thinking, but to me, the second pot seems to have wrinkles, especially if you look at the close-up view of the last shot, like in this section:

http://veggiechinese.net/teadrunk/narrow_pear_closeup.jpg

The wrinkles I've seen (in pictures of zhuni pots, as well as the pots I've seen in person that may be zhuni) are pretty subtle, and difficult to get on camera.

Some other examples:

[first pot is Tim's]

http://veggiechinese.net/teadrunk/tims_zhuni1.jpg

[Rest are from various posts on the potsart forum]
http://xs117.xs.to/xs117/07274/P1030113.JPG
http://xs117.xs.to/xs117/07274/P1030117.JPG

http://forum.potsart.com/attachments/month_0707/20070701_b86bd2b33acaf78fd71fozjFsX9qGvcY.jpg

http://forum.potsart.com/attachments/month_0707/20070702_dc08dde2a68bca6a62764BQWpefF71DR.jpg


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Re: Show Off Your Chinese Teaware

william, you have just touched the very sensitive spot! WoW!

What you have just posted was what always kept me on my mind.

First, your lipi zhuni's wrinkle can be as even found on Zinis, but from Tim's pot has numberous unseen wrinkle in and out. And not just wrinkle, but color(guessing it contained iron red powder), natural particle, natural gloss overall doesn't look any natural to my amateur-eyes.

And all of above pots have less wrinkle leading me to understand 'ZhaoZhuang' Zhuni or Xiao Hongni. ZhaoZhuag Zhuni and Xiao Hongni's classification also not clear. Since it's from same ore bed (Nenni), it seems more yellow (redder), more delicate (higher shrinkage) clay is called 'Zhuni'. So your above picture makes me ponder it could more 'Xiao Hongni' type. Good particle http://www.chinataodu.com/article_view.asp?id=158 tells Al=alumina content as well affects in appearing a wrinkle.

Zhuni is 'mud' so it's very delicate, small particle it doesn't have any 骨-bone so easily breaks in a kiln. So potters liked to add Hongni, Shi Huang, Duanni particle and 'Tiao Sha' to make successive rate higher. But Tiao Sha Zhuni then have big particle that is opposed to 'mud' texture of Zhuni. But once it's successed to be fired with pure Zhuni, one can earn dynamic, creamy, red texture 'zhuni' clay. More wrinkle means higher failure of firing. My acquaintance quoted 'more wrinkle is better Zhuni'. Xiao Mei Yao Zhuni has the most wrinkle (over 20% of shrinkage), but purity of clay is lesser than ZhaoZhuang Zhuni, so Xiao Mei Yao Zhuni wasn't purifed red in color. ZhaoZhuang mountain was Zhuni mine and lots of pure ore could be earned. So long-timely ZhaoZhuang Zhuni has been worshipped for the great quality as Zhuni.

I'd love this conversation, WOW

Charlie

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15 (edited by Wes 2009-01-11 05:54:20)

Re: Show Off Your Chinese Teaware

My new pot... The clay had been stored in No. 1 factory for 30 years. It smells amazing, like those saunas that have the hot rocks you evaporate water over. It's about 100ml and shows off with a ~7 second pour.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3316/3186448960_4de92280b4_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3465/3185605727_febd5aa3d2_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3485/3185598413_3b0b3648c7_b.jpg

Bottom Mark: Made by Feng Zhong Hua
Handle Mark: Feng
Lid Marks: Feng, Zhong Hua

And the color is way off... It's more of a light brown or dark tan. Nowhere near red. I used it for aged oolong today and it turned out great, so I'll probably keep it for them.


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Re: Show Off Your Chinese Teaware

Wes wrote:

My new pot... The clay had been stored in No. 1 factory for 30 years. It smells amazing, like those saunas that have the hot rocks you evaporate water over. It's about 100ml and shows off with a ~7 second pour.

Bottom Mark: Made by Feng Zhong Hua
Handle Mark: Feng
Lid Marks: Feng, Zhong Hua

And the color is way off... It's more of a light brown or dark tan. Nowhere near red. I used it for aged oolong today and it turned out great, so I'll probably keep it for them.

It's Xu Pian -虚偏. pattern was developed by 'father of Yixing teapot' Shi Da Bin in late-Ming.

Since it's not written in Chinese (master name), I can't copy and paste on authorized website..

shape looks nice to my eyes...

一杯一杯復一杯

Re: Show Off Your Chinese Teaware

Nice work Wes, your new camera is rocking out.


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18 (edited by brandon 2009-01-15 02:00:12)

Re: Show Off Your Chinese Teaware

4 year old Zini Shui Ping

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19 (edited by brandon 2009-01-15 02:09:38)

Re: Show Off Your Chinese Teaware

Nada calls this a mix of "raw and ripe" duan ni. I imagine that means a portion of the clay has been aged, but I am not really sure. Photos came out a little darker than on the lcd, sorry.

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Re: Show Off Your Chinese Teaware

Ah, you got the "raw and ripe" duan ni from Nada, Brandon.  Very nice.

Will you devote it to a particular tea?

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Re: Show Off Your Chinese Teaware

Yancha.


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Re: Show Off Your Chinese Teaware

brandon wrote:

Nada calls this a mix of "raw and ripe" duan ni. I imagine that means a portion of the clay has been aged, but I am not really sure. Photos came out a little darker than on the lcd, sorry.

Interesting. Can you post a close-up of the clay?


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Re: Show Off Your Chinese Teaware

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Re: Show Off Your Chinese Teaware

looks moldy. is that color I'm seeing really green?

-still envious ;)


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Re: Show Off Your Chinese Teaware

brandon wrote:

Nada calls this a mix of "raw and ripe" duan ni. I imagine that means a portion of the clay has been aged, but I am not really sure.

Nada, does the "raw and ripe" refer to aged and new clay as Brandon suggests, or processed and unprocessed clays, or something else? It looks like it was not sifted or large particles were added later. It is a great effect, and almost looks Yaobian(窑变) in places.

Good choice brandon, I like your taste in teaware.

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