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			<title><![CDATA[Who knows of a good Tea Steeping app?]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>I hope this is the correct area to post this subject. Are there any good tea apps that steep for the iPhone?</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2013 20:13:16 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Hello]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Hello,<br />I&#039;m new here and really don&#039;t know if anyone still read and writes this board.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (MikeTaster)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2012 15:45:04 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Small Yixing Teapot Marked Hui Mengchen Zhi]]></title>
			<link>http://teadrunk.org/topic/270/small-yixing-teapot-marked-hui-mengchen-zhi/new/posts/</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>A found a small yixing teapot in Myanmar with tea stained side and on the body.</p><p>Approximating 3.5 cm high from the mouth rim<br />Approximating 6.5 high from the lid<br />Marked as Hui Mengchen Zhi on the base only.</p><p>Based on the mark as Hui Mengchen Zhi. May I know the probable dating?</p><p>How can I post the images here?</p><p>Thank you.</p><p>Lee</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (Lee)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2012 04:47:08 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[80s Aged Red Tea]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>I was never a big fan of Chinese red tea, usually loosing my interest after a few cups.&nbsp; During a recent tea gathering, I was very impressed with a 1980s Yunan red tea that was meant to be exported to Russia but somehow never did in the end . The tin packaging was this interesting bright bottled green colors quite common during the 80s. The tea was very impressive, deep, almost like a aged Puer and has a interesting sweetness to it that is sharp and rich and&nbsp; what surprises me was the cha QI, which built up steadily and slowly after a few brew. The reason I was never interested in red tea is becasue of the lack of cha QI and character but this one is a special find! I have drank all kinds of aged tea from white to Liu an and even 30 years old aged green tea but this is the first time i came across a aged red tea....impressive!</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2012 02:10:40 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[My tea pot]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Hello all.. Very new to Yixing teaware &amp; also drinking chinese teas..<br />Have recently aquired this little tea pot which i think is delightfull and intricate... I believe it is a poem written on the tea pot.</p><p>I am unsure of the clay used fr this tea pot &amp; what tea may suit the pot best?&nbsp; I would like to glean as much information about this little pot as i can and hope that perhaps a few of you here might be able to help me with that?</p><p>Before I dedicate this tea pot to one particular tea i will sample many and find which i will prefer to drink providing the tea will suit the pot .</p><p>Many thanks</p><br /><br /><p>edit. I cannot seem to post pictures here . They are perhaps not allowed? I use photobucket for uploads?</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2012 16:21:15 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Tea Brick ID help: 2008 Sheng Puerh?]]></title>
			<link>http://teadrunk.org/topic/264/tea-brick-id-help-2008-sheng-puerh/new/posts/</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>I recently received a gift of a tea brick from a friend who is not as into tea as I am...she was moving and clearing out her apartment, and gave me this, so I have no idea what sort of quality to expect.&nbsp; So far, I&#039;ve deciphered the characters 生普洱茶 = Sheng Puerh.&nbsp; Does anyone have any further insights, both into what the characters say, and if this might be a tea of decent quality?&nbsp; Photos of the front and back can be found on my blog post:</p><p><a href="http://cazort.blogspot.com/2012/07/tea-brick-identification-help-2008.html">Tea Brick Identification Help: 2008 Sheng Pu-erh? </a></p><p>Thanks in advance!</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:15:36 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Appearance of Bi Luo Chun(碧螺春) Leaf]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;ve tasted a moderate number of samples of Bi Luo Chun(碧螺春), and some have been better than others, but I&#039;m not convinced I&#039;ve tried much of the best-quality stuff available.</p><p>One thing that I have noticed is that there is a considerable amount of variability in the level of rolling of the leaf.&nbsp; Some is tightly rolled, not quite into pellets, but approaching so, whereas other looks mostly extended, and only slightly curled or wavy.</p><p>I&#039;ve heard suggested about oolongs that higher-quality teas tend to be more tightly rolled, but I&#039;m not 100% convinced that this is always the case, and I&#039;m also completely unclear as to whether or not this same rule would extend to a curled green tea like Bi Luo Chun.</p><p>Any insights?</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2012 21:10:51 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Warming vs. Cooling Qualities in Chines Red Tea vs. Darjeeling Tea]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>I know this is not a particular scientific concept, nor am I well-versed in the concept&#039;s use in traditional Chinese medicine, but I perceive Chinese Red Tea or Hong Cha(紅茶) to generally have a warming quality.&nbsp; I find this to be true of Keemun(祁门), of Dian Hong(滇红), and of various Congou / Gong fu red teas.</p><p>On the other hand, I also drink &quot;black teas&quot; from Darjeeling, and I find that these teas, especially the lighter first flush teas, but often even the darker teas as well, consistently have a more cooling quality to me.</p><p>I am curious if there is any theory or justification for this observation, in harmony with traditional Chinese medicine&#039;s theory of warming and cooling qualities, and I am also curious if there are any red teas produced in China that exhibit more of the cooling qualities that I find characteristic of Darjeeling teas.&nbsp; And has anyone else made this sort of observation about the distinction between Darjeeling teas and Chinese hong cha?</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2012 21:07:32 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Help buying a yixing tea pot]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Hey every one I am new to this but I have really fallen in love with tea....I want to invest in a yixing pot but i dont want to get a bad one....does any one know where I could get a good one but not too expensive?</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2012 23:26:36 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Prefectural differences?]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Do different prefectures have certain flavors associated with their senchas? Or is there not so much difference, since everyone is using Yabukita clones?</p><p>How would you describe the difference between sencha from Shizuoka and sencha from Kagoshima, for instance?</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2012 18:54:15 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Guricha / Tamaryokucha and Pan-firing vs. Steaming]]></title>
			<link>http://teadrunk.org/topic/258/guricha-tamaryokucha-and-panfiring-vs-steaming/new/posts/</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;ve recently been reading about guricha and tamaryokucha.&nbsp; I see a lot of sources mention that they&#039;re just different names for the same tea.</p><p>I also have found some sources, like Wikipedia (which I do not trust because their article on this type of tea is largely unsourced) which says that it can be either pan-fired or steamed.</p><p>I&#039;m wondering if anyone knows about this type of tea, and can verify (a source that I could trust would be great) that they&#039;re just different names for the same thing, or if not, explain the distinction...and also, explain...can this type of tea really be either pan-fired or steamed...and is it still called the same name in both cases?</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 08 Mar 2012 17:31:59 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[liu'an ID]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>I know you can&#039;t see that much of the ticket. Looks like it&#039;s a modern replica of &#039;Sun Yishun&#039; (孙义顺 / 孫義順) liu&#039;an from the ticket. I got this at Best Tea House Canada about 4 years ago; at the time, it was claimed to be 20 years old.</p><p>Guessing would be 90s, and seems similar to this tea [no - I did not pay that price for it]:<br /><a href="http://store.thechineseteashop.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=LA-92-001">http://store.thechineseteashop.com/Prod … =LA-92-001</a></p><p>[click for larger image]<br /><a href="http://soulrebels.com/teadrunk/liu_an1.jpg"><span class="postimg"><img src="http://soulrebels.com/teadrunk/liu_an1_SM.jpg" alt="http://soulrebels.com/teadrunk/liu_an1_SM.jpg" /></span></a><br /><a href="http://soulrebels.com/teadrunk/liu_an2.jpg"><span class="postimg"><img src="http://soulrebels.com/teadrunk/liu_an2_SM.jpg" alt="http://soulrebels.com/teadrunk/liu_an2_SM.jpg" /></span></a><br /><a href="http://soulrebels.com/teadrunk/liu_an3.jpg"><span class="postimg"><img src="http://soulrebels.com/teadrunk/liu_an3_SM.jpg" alt="http://soulrebels.com/teadrunk/liu_an3_SM.jpg" /></span></a></p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 11 Feb 2012 07:58:35 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[liu'an and liubao production]]></title>
			<link>http://teadrunk.org/topic/256/liuan-and-liubao-production/new/posts/</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Summarized some information from a couple of AoT articles about liu&#039;an in this Teachat thread:<br /><a href="http://www.teachat.com/viewtopic.php?t=16991">http://www.teachat.com/viewtopic.php?t=16991</a></p><p>Thought I&#039;d post it here, for everyone&#039;s edification, as well as to spark some discussion. I&#039;d love to hear more information about the liubao production process.</p><p>They [liu&#039;an and liubao] are made in different areas, and I believe, made with different raw materials and different production methods. However, they are fairly similar; people with a lot of experience can probably usually tell them apart, though I&#039;ve heard that, while liu&#039;an had a gap in production, liubao in liu&#039;an size baskets was sometimes sold as liu&#039;an. Both can have some medicinal / herbal tastes, and both are said to aid in digestion and help with constipation. From what I can gather, liu&#039;an basket tea may be considered &quot;cooling&quot; [information based on article mentioned below], however, whereas liubao may be &quot;warming&quot; [numerous internet sources, but nothing super reliable].</p><p>The liu&#039;an that I&#039;ve experienced is usually in a 500g basket. Liubao baskets are often, but not always, much, much larger (up to 20 kilos for a single basket). Liubao is also more recently sometimes pressed into cakes which resemble pu&#039;er cakes.</p><p>According to the article described <a href="http://www.the-art-of-tea.com/list-all-issues/article/2-discover-and-guesswork-of-liu-an-tea.html">here</a> in issue 5 of Art of Tea [pp10-15], liu&#039;an has two production techniques. Both start with kill-green, like green tea or pu&#039;er. For the first method (I guess you would say more like sheng pu&#039;er), the tea is put into bamboo leaves and then baskets, and roasted in the basket to dry them. For the second method, the tea leaves are withered in the sun, kill-greened, and then rested for about half a year. Then, water is added, and the tea is wrapped / packed in the bamboo leaves and basket. The tea &quot;ferments&quot; like this, and then the baskets are dried.</p><p>The article also says that the tea is made in Qimen (祁门) in the south part of Anhui；same Qimen as Qimen (Keemun) red tea), but doesn&#039;t have a conclusive explanation as to why it&#039;s not produced in Liu&#039;an (六安), which is in the west. My understanding from the article is that it likely does not use the same type of tea leaf as liuan guapian, and that further, that liu&#039;an basket tea has been produced for a longer time than liuan guapian.</p><p>The inside is bamboo leaf, not bamboo bark (of the sort used for pu&#039;er tongs). It&#039;s customary to brew a small piece of the bamboo leaf along with the tea. In my experience, the &quot;raw&quot; variety can be pretty bitter when young.</p><p>There is also liuan guapian, which is a famous green tea, also from Anhui.</p><p>Liubao is made in Guangxi. I don&#039;t know much about the manufacturing process; I believe it is similar in a lot of ways to liu&#039;an.&nbsp; I don&#039;t know how accurate this description is, but <a href="http://www.redcircletea.com/blog/?p=183">this article</a> claims that liubao is partially oxidized <em>after</em> kill-green. I can believe that it&#039;s partly oxidized, but not sure whether bruising will work after kill-green. <br />See also:<br /><a href="http://www.teachat.com/viewtopic.php?t=2675">http://www.teachat.com/viewtopic.php?t=2675</a><br /><a href="http://teadrunk.org/post/141/#p141">http://teadrunk.org/post/141/#p141</a></p><ul></ul><p>Two other articles in the same issue [pp 4-9, pp 16-26] are a bit more specific on the dates where there was a gap in production of Liu&#039;an basket tea. The gap seems to have been from about 1943, until demand from HK and SE Asia caused production to be re-started in the mid-80s. So, be skeptical of any Liu&#039;an that&#039;s supposed to have been produced in between those times.</p><p>This other article also mentions a couple of other interesting teas sold by HK tea merchants which might be confused with Liu&#039;an basket tea [let me know if I&#039;ve got any of the information, characters, or translations wrong]:</p><p>&quot;Nice [read fragrant] Liu-an&quot; (香六安): The article says that this is loose-leaf pu&#039;er [so, not liu&#039;an at all] blended with Aglaia odorata (米仔兰, I believe) flowers, and, in some cases, black or green tea leaves [I don&#039;t know whether they mean &quot;red&quot; or &quot;black&quot; in Chinese terms, but assume red]. Cloud&#039;s article [pp 16-26] suggests that this actually originated from a practice used to improve the taste of Liu&#039;an green tea that had to travel a great distance.</p><p>Liu-an Stems (六安骨): [骨 is literally &quot;bone&quot;, I believe, but correct me if I&#039;m wrong] Apparently oolong stems, which are then roasted. No relation to actual liu&#039;an teas. These are not on the market anymore for the most part, because oolongs now have the stems removed before being sent to HK, rather than being shipped there with the stems on, to have them removed before sale.</p><p>Also some mention of these last two at<br /><a href="http://www.discuss.com.hk/viewthread.php?tid=12878484">http://www.discuss.com.hk/viewthread.php?tid=12878484</a> [in Chinese only]</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 11 Feb 2012 07:29:59 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[50s-60s mystery cake ID]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;m going to ping some people about this off-forum, but thought I&#039;d post it here in case someone has something to contribute.</p><p>A co-worker of mine, after reading the LA Times article, asked me about some pu&#039;er cakes (not an intact stack, but about 5-6 of them) that have been in her in-laws family for quite some time. They purchased them in the 1960s in Vancouver, and the cakes were apparently somewhat aged already at that time.&nbsp; The original wrapper was removed, and replaced by a card from a HK tea business called 鸿昌泰. This was common back then when exporting tea -- I have some tea from the 60s which has the same kind of card from a different exporter. The tea has been stored in North America since then, and I believe has been in cellophane or plastic packaging since that time. You can see a bit of staining on the neifei, but I would assume the storage of this tea has been pretty dry since it arrived in N. America.</p><p>The card from 鸿昌泰 appears to just have a company name, address, and phone number, so I don&#039;t think we can determine much about the tea itself from the card.</p><p>Based on the following pictures, what can we exclude / include? I am assuming that since the neifei says &#039;Menghai Tea Factory&#039; and features the zhongcha logo, we can assume that<br /> 1. The tea is from after 1953, and also, must be from before whatever date it was purchased. So conservatively, the tea was probably produced between 1955 and 1970.<br /> 2. While I don&#039;t have a picture of the back side yet, based on the leaf size and compression style, it does not appear to be a discus cake.</p><p>[edited out some inaccurate details about hongyin / lanyin neifei - wby] Most of the hongyin and lanyin (whether discus or not) I can find pictures of (see below, and notes in second comment) seems to have a square-shaped neifei without text. If memory serves, there were also some less &quot;distinguished&quot; teas produced during this time period as well?<br /><a href="http://www.ynchaye.com/whch/puerjs/200701/1440.html">http://www.ynchaye.com/whch/puerjs/200701/1440.html</a></p><p>I will try to taste the tea, and to take some better photos, when I&#039;m able.</p><p>[click for larger image]<br /><a href="http://soulrebels.com/teadrunk/mystery_aged_puer_1.jpg"><span class="postimg"><img src="http://soulrebels.com/teadrunk/mystery_aged_puer_1_SM.jpg" alt="http://soulrebels.com/teadrunk/mystery_aged_puer_1_SM.jpg" /></span></a><br /><a href="http://soulrebels.com/teadrunk/mystery_aged_puer_2.jpg"><span class="postimg"><img src="http://soulrebels.com/teadrunk/mystery_aged_puer_2_SM.jpg" alt="http://soulrebels.com/teadrunk/mystery_aged_puer_2_SM.jpg" /></span></a></p><p>I didn&#039;t find much about that company online - but I think this may be the same firm:<br /><a href="http://blog.sina.com.cn/s/blog_6730429e0100i83c.html">http://blog.sina.com.cn/s/blog_6730429e0100i83c.html</a></p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2012 01:09:14 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Da Hong Pao / Xiao Hong Pao - Distinct Cultivars?]]></title>
			<link>http://teadrunk.org/topic/254/da-hong-pao-xiao-hong-pao-distinct-cultivars/new/posts/</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;ve read in numerous sources the idea that Da Hong Pao refers only to tea produced either from the original Da Hong Pao plants, or cloned plants a finite number of generations away, and that tea produced of the same cultivar but from more distant clones is more properly named Xiao Hong Pao.</p><p>However, I recently found Norbu Tea offering <a href="http://www.norbutea.com/XiaoHongPao_Spring11">Xiao Hong Pao</a> and on their page they say:</p><p><em>Xiao Hong Pao (小红袍, English: Little Red Robe) is a tea varietal which is known as one of the many Ming Cong (名丛, English: Famous Bush) that originally come from the Wuyi tea growing region of NW Fujian Province.&nbsp; Contrary to the common story that keeps getting re-told in Western tea circles, Xiao Hong Pao is actually its own separate varietal, not &quot;Da Hong Pao&quot; varietal plants that are a certain number of generations away from the original DHP bushes.&nbsp; It is entirely possible that some tea wholesalers misleadingly (either intentionally or unintentionally because of lack of knowledge) market some blend of several different Wuyi cultivars as &quot;Xiao Hong Pao,&quot; but this just creates huge amounts of confusion with small tea sellers and consumers alike.&nbsp; According to our supplier, this Xiao Hong Pao was produced from Xiao Hong Pao cultivar tea plants only.</em></p><p>Is this correct?&nbsp; This is the first time I&#039;ve encountered this information or this sort of claim.&nbsp; I&#039;d be interested in sorting this out and clarifying this issue.&nbsp; If it is correct, this would be a pretty major piece of misinformation that is circulating very widely.&nbsp; But I&#039;m cautious here, as this is the first time I&#039;ve encountered the idea that Xiao Hong Pao is really a distinct cultivar.</p><p><a href="http://www.teachat.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&amp;t=15661&amp;start=15">A thread on TeaChat</a> also brings this up (I found this after searching) and several people whose knowledge I trust, including Ginkgo Seto of Life in Teacup, verify that this is actually a distinct cultivar.&nbsp; I currently am unable to find anything that I would consider a reliable published source stating either way.&nbsp; However, in the absence of clear sources either way, I&#039;d be inclined to trust Gingko Seto and Norbu Tea.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2012 16:43:26 +0000</pubDate>
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